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This might be offensive. (Topic: Furries)

Sun Jun 19, 2005, 12:10 PM
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Dear Journal,

This is possibly offensive, so be aware.

The topic at hand is furries. But before I get into this, I want to explain what I mean by furries.

By furries I mean people who draw sexualized anthromorphic animals, proudly proclaim that they're furry, and have one fetish or another that they incorporate into their drawings.

Now, I realize that there are other types of furries, but they really don't bother me so very much. Walk around decked out entirely in a giant bunny suit? That's okay, just don't touch me. Have a thing for stuffed animals? Keep it in your bedroom and don't look at my keepsakes that way and we're on decent terms. Think you possess a mighty lion soul? That's okay, some people believe they're being watched 24/7 by a man in the clouds and others believe they evolved from clams (I'm looking at you scientology!)

Now, why do these furries bother me?

Because I recently heard some news that animation studios (in America) are refusing to hire people who they suspect are furries. This means anyone who has funny animals* in their profolio is going to have a red flag in the eyes of the animation studios. And this is because of furries. Now, if you can't see the reasoning behind them not wanting to hire furries, consider this: they draw pornography of cartoon animals. If someone who gets their kicks out of femme animal toons (or male ones, even) draws for a cartoon (or other project) think of all the things that can go wrong- for one maybe (MAYBE) the furry would have a tendency to draw the characters too sexualized and not appropriate for the age group (and lets face it, cartoon animals are mainly kids fare), but what if parents find out the cartoon their children were watching was drawn by someone who revels in drawing fuzzy animal twats and cocks? I'll tell you what will happen: the studio will have to fire the furry's ass before their reputation drops any further and/or they get their asses sued.

Now. Why does this make me angry?

This makes me angry because I like to occasionally draw animal characters and I hope for a professional job as an animator or something of the like, and I now know that if I include any of my cartoon animal pictures in my profile that I'll endanger my chances of being hired.

Which is a crying shame, as I got some pretty nice pictures. But because the subject matter happens to be a anthromorphic animal it's got strikes against it. And I like to draw anthromorphic animals on occasion, drawing humans gets boring after awhile and animals allow for some fun character designs. But no. Can't draw too much of that or people might think I'm *GASP* a FURRY!

Thanks a fucking lot.

And oh yeah, for those of you that think I'm a furry?

I'M NOT.**

In fact, this whole 'draw anthromorphic animals and you're a furry' stigma has ALREADY worked against me, THAT'S what really chews my buttons. Here, let me tell you about it-

My art class had a visitor from the Art Institute, and my art teacher happily egged me into showing some of my free time work to the visitor. The pictures I showed her were the fish tank cartoons (the betta, corydoras, and white clouds) and the Big Bad Wolf picture. Notice something? All those pictures have anthromorphic animals. I also showed her a conceptual magazine header.

She told me they were very nice.

But as she looked at them, she was frowning.

Now tell me. What do -you- think was going on in her head?

Yeah. That’s what I've realized after I heard about the no furry hire thing.

There are other reasons, too, that I don't like furries. All has to do with art too. But I won't get into it.

*Funny animal: cartoon animals such as Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, etc. They’re not furries, contrary to popular belief, but funny animals. There are different types of anthromorphics, and here’s some distinctions:
· Funny animals- cartoon animals like Garfeild, or any various video game character like, oh, say, Sonic the Hedgehog.
· Anthromorph- Basically a term for ANYTHING with HUMAN features. Talking toaster? It’s an anthromorph. So funny animals are anthromorphs, and so are furries… but anthromorph!=furry. Remember that.
· Furry= Oh boy. How to define a furry? I think (I think, so this is IMHO) the best way to define a furry would be a sexualized anthromorph. Got huge breasts and a twat? It’s a furry.

But wait, lets take a closer look at this… Does this make Sally Acorn of Sonic fame a furry? No. She doesn’t even have breasts. Or at least, the cartoon version didn’t. She had a curved chest to help emphasize that she’s female. But no ta-tas. So the old cartoon version isn’t furry, how about the Archie one? Furry furry furry. From the pert breasts, curvy hips, and shapely legs she screams furry. Did she need all this? I don’t think so. But they draw her like that anyway. Which leads me to another thing, Sonic the Hedgehog has disturbingly become synominous with furry. Another reason I’m not that much of a Sonic fan anymore. Sonic the Hedgehog, Tails, Knuckles, etc. are all funny animals. Not furries. But then along came Rouge. Now, Sonic may have been considered furry before Rouge came along, but when she basically pasted the label onto Sonic. Now, I like Rouge. Decent characterization, the Design is alright but I think she could of done without the HUGE JUBBLIES (what does a cartoon bat in a video game that typically includes freeing small animals from robots need jubblies for anyway?? Nothing, that’s what.) I get the horribly aching feeling that Rouge was made to appeal to the kind of people who would be appealed by a cartoon animal with cans. But enough on that…

**I’ve heard it said before that anyone who is a fan of Sonic the Hedgehog is a furry. Someone please tell me the reasoning behind this shit. I can’t fathom how liking a video game that happens to star funny animals makes you a furry. In fact, if that makes you a furry… What does being a fan of Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg make you (No, don’t say ‘stupid’)? Or The Sims? I don’t get it.

I’m done for now, too tired and too out of spite to rant anymore then this.

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:iconktcoope:
Well said, DB. It's sad, I quite like things with Anthros in, and I'm not opposed to doing the odd anthro doodle now and then... or at least I wouldn't be were it not for the wash of sexualised furry bullshit all over the place. It's really sad that a few people getting their sexual kicks from cartoon animals have to wreack anthro things for everyone else.

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KT Coope
"It's the best possible time to be alive; When everything you thought you knew is wrong."
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:iconandrewk:
I think I've found my plot for one of the UNTITLED School of Art episodes! Thanks!

Did the guest say right upfront that she did not accept you because there is furry art in your portfolio? She may have been frowning because of some other reason.

Me... the definition of 'furry' and 'anthromorphic' has been debated so many times that I really don't care anymore. However, if what you say about the animation industry is true, I am a goner. I am mostly known for writing a strip which features funny animals, and half of the characters that appear in my portfolio are animals or have animal characteristics! No teacher in my school has apparently heard of this recent bit of news, because they did not mention any of it to me! I do NOT think it is true!

I mean, a good amount of cartoon characters today are still animals or have animal characteristics! What's their problem?! Isn't one of the reasons why cartoons exist is to fantasize about things that do not exist and escape reality for a while?! If this wave of yiffness has become so big that it has effected the way the industry HIRES people, I will be personally insulted. I do agree that they are trying to stay safe and target the right audiences for their entertainment, but this is being way too picky! Truthfully, I would love to see the day a cable channel premieres that showcases adult animated shows with those kinds of characters! But I won't necessarily stay to watch it.

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:icondarkburraki:
;3 HURRAH I'M INSPIRING.

And no, she didn't say. Might of been some other reason. I suppose when I go to that school I'll find out for myself, eh?

As for the hiring thing, we'll have to see if it's really true.
:iconneoyi:
Does this whole furry thing apply to comic strips and stuff? I'm not into furry porn either (if others are, I just let them be, ain't my problem), but my leading character in my original series is a wolf anthro. But you make some interesting points.

I havew no grips about furry really, I'm more into let them draw whatever they want, I don't care mode in most cases. Granted, I, too would avoid seeing porno furry artwork because I just don't like to see it, but it affecting the animation world in America is really concerning me. I mean, I do hope when they see artists who draw anthros without the porn that they'll see the difference between that and the porno ones. *stars worrying at my own characters*
~Neo

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:iconjamieswiftrunner:
Right then, this dashes any hopes I have of seeing Idika be animated by any company on US shores. Not like I think anyone would take it anyway since cartoons are "kid's stuff" and Idika is far from being kiddy oriented...

Sickning. As if furries are the only people who draw porn? What about the fantasy people? Elves, faries, what have you? Or the sci-fi nerds? I got pissed at a guy for showing me alien porn I didn't want to see awhile back. Why don't THEY have strikes against them? Oh, because they're basically human (at least in the case of elves and faries)? Because they don't have animal snouts and aren't covered in fur? So that makes it okay?

Damn hypocrits.

As far as the thing with Rouge, I think she was just introduced for sex appeal in general, not necessarily to appeal to furries. The fact that she's furless beyond her head (which, BTW, I think is ugly as all get out) shows that she was made to appeal to Japanese men--In their culture the ONLY place it's attractive to have hair is the head. Privates, arms, legs--Hair anywhere else is unattractive by their standards. If she was made to appeal to furries I think she'd, well, be furry all over.
I don't think that because an animal girl is drawn with breasts necessarily classifies her as a "furry" myself though, but that's something that really boils down to personal opinion. I've had a pretty loose idea of what makes a furry in the past that I've been rethinking *shrug*

In any case, it's a good thing I was never serious about becomming an animator. I wonder if this'll have any impact to my hopeful future career as an author though...

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:iconpsychic007:
i'm just in denial about what you call "furries". i try not to think of those disturbed minds...

i do like drawing humanoids better than drawing actual humans, (i'd trust a random dog more than a random person. and i'm a "cat person"!) and perhaps i'm gonna draw those anthro's in some risque stuff. so what? i just don't see the big problem. it's mostly just humanoids, without some of the bad stuff of being human. (think: no fur, bad hearing, bad eyesight, bad smell in multiple ways, no natural defenses... need i go on? worst thing: no tail. why of why did those stupid ape-ancestor guys have to lose their tails?)
:icondarkburraki:
Actually, here's where I got it from: [link]
(Yes CYD has a bad rep, but no, just because I browse around there doesn't make me an anti-furry hate nazi or something. It's a good place for information.)
:iconastrima:
I find it a sad thing i can't even really draw an actual sonic character thesedays without indwardly shuddering. I used to love drawing 'funny' animals but the stigma around it is so huge that i'd much rather avoid it. The wrong kind of people ruined it for me.

Im not saying i dont draw adult art (well not furry stuff) but sometimes people can go a -little- bit- too- far and create this backlash. Its a bit like how if you draw in an anime style certain artists look down their noses at you. Its become stigmatised:(


Behhh.

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:iconchazdragoon:
You know..this is odd. think about this:

Anime is currently the most saught after animation style right? Thats why we have so many Anime-style Clones like Teen Titans, Totally Spies, Winx Club and a few others. But the thing is..EVERYONE knows that anime also has this adult side like heavy violence and lots of sex. Even the "childrens" shows have female characters with large breasts in them and even some villians wearing bondage-esque outfits.

Now lets turn our heads to animals/furrys... basically all the same thing anime has and can be. They can be funny, violent or sexy...they can have female characters with large breasts as well.

So the point being...People who DONT draw animals for sexual purposes (like you) are getting shafted due to either mass misconception of furrys/animals or bias by these studios.

I dunno about them..but if the studios are going to bias every form of animal art they need to remember cartoons started with animals and they had thier fair share of "sexy characters" back then too.

Heres another one: Anime has "furries" too! Catgirls anyone?

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